I have tried multiplying every perfect square (up to 400 by two and checking if it is a perfect 5th power, but still nothing. I don"t know what to do at this point.

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This is like code golf...

The answer is 500000.

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$\begingroup$ But... the OP didn't ask how to (in general) FIND the answer. They asked what the answer was, presumably with the minimal proof needed to verify it. I joked about code golf because I tried to give the shortest, most transparent possible demonstration that the result was correct. $\endgroup$

The number is clearly a multiple of $5$ and $2$. We look for the smallest, so we assume that it has no more prime factors.

So let $n=2^a5^b$. Since $n/2$ is a square, then $a-1$ and $b$ are even. Since $n/5$ is a fifth power, $a$ and $b-1$ are multiples of $5$. Then $a=5$ and $b=6$.

Here"s a very unsophisticated approach: Let $n$ be the smallest such integer. Then there exist integers $a$ and $b$ such that $n=5a^5$ and $n=2b^2$. It follows that $a$ is a multiple of $2$, say $a=2a_1$, and $b$ is a multiple of $5$, say $b=5b_1$. Then$$n=2^5\cdot5\cdot a_1^5\qquad\text{ and }\qquad n=2\cdot5^2\cdot b_1^2.$$This in turn shows that $a_1$ is a multiple of $5$, say $a_1=5a_2$, and $b_1$ is a multiple of $2$, say $b_1=2b_2$. Then$$n=2^5\cdot5^6\cdot a_2^5\qquad\text{ and }\qquad n=2^3\cdot5^2\cdot b_2^2.$$This in turn shows that $b_2$ is a multiple of both $2$ and $5^2$, say $b_2=2\cdot5^2\cdot b_3$. Then $$n=2^5\cdot5^6\cdot a_2^5\qquad\text{ and }\qquad n=2^5\cdot5^6\cdot b_3^2.$$This shows that $n\geq2^5\cdot5^6$, and as you might expect a quick check shows that $n=2^5\cdot5^6$ does indeed work, so $n=2^5\cdot5^6=500000$.

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I am writing this answer because you said that you were trying a guess and check method. Computers are good at this. A decent algorithm is to have two integers $n_x$ and $n_y$ which start at 1. Then, calculate x by doing $2n_x^2$ and y by doing $5n_y^5$. Check if they are equal; if they are, you found your answer. If not, whichever of $x$ and $y$ are lower, increment that $n$ value (i.e., if $x , then increment $n_x$). Recalculate $x$ and $y$ and repeat until they are the same.

Here is an example implementation in Python using generators:

class SpecialSquareGenerator: def __init__(self, n=0): self.n = n def __iter__(self): return self def __next__(self): self.n += 1 return self.n, 2*(self.n**2)class SpecialFifthGenerator: def __init__(self, n=0): self.n = n def __iter__(self): return self def __next__(self): self.n += 1 return self.n, 5*(self.n**5)def special_square(): n = 0; ss = SpecialSquareGenerator() sf = SpecialFifthGenerator() nx, x = next(ss) ny, y = next(sf) print("{0}: {1}\t{2}: {3}".format(nx, x, ny, y)) while True: if (x == y): return x if x Running it returns the right answer:

gns-mac1:sandbox gns$ python3 special_square.py 1: 2 1: 52: 8 1: 52: 8 2: 1603: 18 2: 160...(output omitted)494: 488072 10: 500000495: 490050 10: 500000496: 492032 10: 500000497: 494018 10: 500000498: 496008 10: 500000499: 498002 10: 500000500: 500000 10: 500000500000Of course, the rememberingsomer.comematical approach is better for understanding the problem. But if you need to guess and check, then computers are the tool for that.

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There is another way to exhaustively search for the solution. You can take sequential numbers and try dividing them by 2 (or 5) and then taking the square root (or fifth root) and then checking if that result is an integer for both operations. There are two downsides to this approach:

You have to decide if a floating point number is supposed to represent an integer. This is hard for computers and language implementations to do because computers only have a fixed set of digits to represent floating point numbers.The search space is greater (by order of $n^2$). So that means that you should expect to take longer to reach the same answer, given the same hardware.P.S.S.

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There are faster ways to implement both my algorithm, and the other I mentioned in the postscript. For example, you can double $n$ each time and then when you overshoot, use binary search in the space between the last $n$ and the one that overshot.